These results show the combined responses of eleven respondents to the Oldenburg Interest Survey.
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Total respondants: 11 Zip Codes: 55408: 1 n/a: 1 55122: 2 55401: 4 08817: 1 55101: 2 Proximity Requirements: - 1.5m; in warehouse district strongly preferred. - 10 miles - About half an hour tops. - Within walking distance - unsure - 20 miles - >2 miles - 15 miles - 5 minute drive - 20 - 25 mi - 30 miles or less Services Wanted: Kitchen: 4 Sleeping space: 2 Wireless internet: 9 Kitchen with dinner service: 1 Computer terminal: 5 Honor cash bar: 9 Open bar: 1 Newspaper subscription: 6 Honor snack bar: 9 Other Services Wanted: - Small library or magazines - Deck of cards, board games, other group activities. - at least one space with old-fashioned library silence (a non- chatty, concentration-allowing room) - cable/satellite service. I'd love to have a place not a sports bar to watch Packer games. - TV, DVD player, stereo of some sort, POKER TABLE, complimentary or honor cash cigar bar, board game library (donated or loaned to by members). - Perhaps a game like foosball. - Some type of gaming area, i.e. convertible poker table. Comfy furniture that could double as sleeping area. - I don't really need any of the above to join, however, I think all would be nice if the club could afford them. - i think that free or really cheap soda and water wouls be wise, although ifs absence prolly wouldn't keep me from going to the club. - Magazine subscriptions might be nice (I'd suggest The Economist, which I enjoy reading but don't feel like subscribing to).; A way to watch movies.; I don't think a kitchen is necessary so long as the club is near restaurants.; Sleeping space = couch. Dues: Mean: 41 Median: 30 Size: 10 Acceptable Smoking Policies: Snipers: 1 Smoking outside only: 9 Smoking in a designated area: 6 No smoking restrictions: 1 Smoking restricted to certain hours or days: 4 Pipe smoking only: 4 Ideal Member Count: - There must be enough so someone is usually there - 50 - 20 - 35 - 30-50 - 30 - 40 - 200 - 10-20 - 25-50 - 20-40 Initiation Fee: Mean: 92.5 Median: 150 Size: 10 TV: Yes : 6 (54.55%) No : 5 (45.45%) Guest Policies: - Must be accompanied by a member. - A limit on the monthly visits? Otherwise people may not feel inclined to join if they can tag along with their membership-holding friend whenever they please. - One at a time, never unescorted? - maximum number per year per member and maximum visits per year per guest - First visit for that person is free, then a charge per visit unless they join. - must be accompanied by a member; 2 non-member guests per member should be permitted in the club at any given time. Some mechanism should be in plaace to prevent freeloaders -- maybe a 1- or 2-hour visit limit? - guests restricted to certain hours, and can only stay for a limited amount of time. Wouldn't want guests freeloading in with their friend(s). - open guest days, free guest "passes" of some sort to be handed out in moderation, guest can' come more than X amount of times per month on a pass.; Should it be possible to reserve it for events filled with non-members? I'd say probably no, but it will probably come up, so best to formulate a policy.; - Ok if brought with a member and unless they join, leaves with the member. Maybe small ~$10 cover or similar. - I think it should be pretty "lax" initially. Maybe instead of restrictions on # of visits or something like that, consider members only events so there is an incentive to join. (Want what you can't have sort of thing). Names: - Un4club, er, no, just kidding. - The Appalachian Club - Oldenburg's - WAM (WAM Aren't Masons) ;) - works for me - Third Place - Perhaps an appropriate Simpsons place name - ACM? ;) just kidding. Don't know, but I don't really care for "The Oldenburg". - Super secret Treehouse of /Awesome Attractions: - Neutral area to organize activities, hang out and enjoy oneself in the company of others. - Quiet place to write that's not home or a coffee shop, serendipitous place to run into peeps, social space replicating what we used to have in ACM. - It's nice to have the constant availability of a place to hang out without always having to impose on a few. - Being able to hold an event with members that doesn't impose on someone's home; a neutral space to say, hold a poker tournament. - I still haven't found my ideal hang-out place in 3 years of living downtown. - the "social" part of the club, I don't really care about the services, I'd rather have weekly/monthly events scheduled - familiarity of location and persons - It would be a place where intelligent conversation could be counted on. - I like the idea of a "third place" that (thank god) has nothing to do with politics.; The idea of ACM Redux may be just simple nostalgia for my college days, but it does sound fun. Concerns: - How new members are chosen. - I think it's likely that it will be too far out of the way for most people to go to regularly. The great thing about ACM was that it was where you already where. When I lived in the dorms, I rarely went to ACM, because I just went back to my room. But after I moved off campus, I had nowhere else to go, so I hung out in ACM.; I wonder about the expense of renting space for the club. ACM was subsidized by the University. Perhaps with the current glut of office space, it would be easy to find something. - Financial solidity without burdening the members, obviously the more members the less of an issue this becomes. You could make an argument for a sliding membership fee scale based on the number of members with a hard bottom cap. Also litigation concerns would need to be dissuaded with some sort of written contract on a member by member basis. With a kitchen comes Health inspectors, what would be done about cleanup and upkeep? There are umpteen licensing issues as well, food, beverage, alcohol, etc. - MORONS. - I think conversation should be encouraged. A TV, computer terminal, or too many things could possibly discourage this. A few things, such as newspapers, are ok. They can make it easier for new members or when there are few members present. - I worry that annoying people will spend all their time there, being really loud, so i can't sit there quietly and write. Also, on the smoking thing - I'm not really interested in paying a lot of money to hang out somewhere that aggravates my allergies. But I fear that the majority will want it since so many places don't allow smoking. I also have a concern about TV. I don't have good TV filters, having been raised largely without its influence, and I loathe the TVs in bars. I feel they detract from the conversation and they catch my eye and make me watch things like televised golf. I'd prefer not to have those in our social space. - Possible personal conflicts can put a damper on the spirit of a club. - Egomaniacs. People monoplozing the conversation with talk about career advancements, their new car, and what little Johnny did today. - Having enough members to make it financially feasible. - interpersonal conflict, financing May Join: Yes : 9 (81.82%) No : 1 (9.09%) other: 1 (9.09%) Comments: - I think this is a great idea, but I do not live in the US. I hope you will post information on how you organise the club in your blog. - It is an interesting idea. I would recommend reading Bowling Alone (http://www.bowlingalone.com/) before proceeding for ideas.; There are a few other groups who have been inspired by the "third place"/Bowling Alone argument.; I would list Meetup.com first, as the founders explicitly credit Bowling Alone as their inspiration. Before hijacked (j/k) by politicians, Meetup was a quiet little site where knitters and Oprah fans could hook up. It has a large number of interest groups meeting once a month: http://www.meetup.com/browse/; Second, there's Utne Magazine's "Let's Talk America" conversational salons. http://www.letstalkamerica.org/ ; Jenny's friends also have a monthly book club which I go to often.; Also, this reminds me somewhat of the various users groups around town. - It is an interesting idea, though I see the 2 difficulties, 1. getting everything setup initially. 2. Keeping interest high enough to continue a profitable (i.e. non-money-losing) venture. Everything else is gravy. - Besides money, would there be any membership requirements?; Seems like a nice idea, in a time when bowling alone is so common.; Appalachian meens meeting place in Iroqois. - I miss the ACM hangout times. I don't have the kind of free time I once did, but I would use this if it were in the Warehouse district. I'm not likely to drive anywhere, and I don't much care for biking into Northeast. I am not keen on there being snacks on hand, because restocking is a lot of work (I know; I used to do it for ACM) and none of us have teen-aged metabolisms anymore. I don't object to booze on hand, but I don't plan to use it much; interferes with the thinking. - it's sweet.